Spark It Up January 10 2022
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and happy monday, january 10th 2021 welcome to a brand new edition of what we like to call sparky, sparky spark it up. I'm your host of vegan, you believe in Kirk Adet in the flesh as always and he is the living legend, the icon the one and only L rock mani. What is good my brother, yo yo what's going on, how you doing reporting for duty? And every week on spark it up with like a spark up ideas, spark up debate, spark up our past in many ways and most of all spark up some trees in the process. So with that being said, Ellis Ebola packed. Yes, yes it is current sure is we're gonna pack the bowling, smoking weed and get high as ****. Uh That's funny. You have a good laugh. Yeah, me too. Okay so I know I didn't know the guy personally but to bob saget, may he rest in peace as well as all those other ones that we've lost in the last week since we've talked rest in peace. So your work family becoming your real family as well as that may be at times for better and worse and also cherishing those people just as much as you would your regular family and in some cases more and most of all to manifesting that good things will happen. So as a result good things do happen spark up. I referenced the work family becoming your real family because on full house, that's exactly what it was like, like all of them were really close in real life. Oh you mean the actors not the characters? Yeah, the actors. Yeah, they all they were all like super tight. They all thought the world of each other. Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of The Post today from them, talking about bob Saget and yeah, they're all heartbroken. But like, you know, sometimes not that I'm saying that with them, it's the case, sometimes people write certain things, but it doesn't necessarily mean that was like the real, you know when you, when when someone dies, even the people who were taught, we used to talk about them all of a sudden come and be like, yeah, he was amazed, no one's gonna bring up the bad ship, like no one's gonna be like, oh he was a ******* piece of sh it, you know what I mean? Yeah, admittedly that does happen in times. But I've known for years that the cast of Full House especially with famous Yeah, like I said like I said, I know that does happen in times, I'm not denying that, but I've known for years that the cast of Full Houses super tight and like bob Saget has like one of the best, the best of all celebrities. I have met multiple people who have met him in real life and said he was cool as funk and even bought them drinks and yeah, he was like the nicest guy ever and everybody like on the, on the tweets and the Post today, like putting out tributes for him and said the exact same thing. He was like very kind, he was very generous like even though like his comedy was very vulgar and all that stuff like you could have never met a nicer person and I've heard that enough and heard these stories enough where I can't really deny them. So that's why I mentioned that when your work family becomes your real family, it's a beautiful thing and no man, I mean for sure I I've definitely had some you know, experience with that with like my workplace being like my own you know my co workers and employees being my family. Yeah I kind of have to but it feels like it's a little different like when you're on an actual sitcom and like you're somebody's playing your daughter, somebody's playing your wife or your brother in law etcetera. I feel like it's a little bit of a different dynamic like in that kind of environment different for sure. But it's not just the actors like you know that's the producers, the production staff, yeah, the camera, you know everyone. Director, creator so it's a lot of people are going to Oh yeah, trust me. I watched behind the scenes of like a lot of my favorite shows and yeah you see all those people in the background and they're every bit as part of making the show what it is is the people you see on screen. Oh yeah, for sure. It's not a one man operation. Same like, like the same in my business, you know what I mean? Without a dishwasher, you can't work. I mean like, yeah, with a bartender without a bartender, you can't serve alcohol without food runners, you can't get the food to the tables, et cetera. Everybody plays their part. Yeah, for sure. It's an operation. It's a system. It's a team effort. Yeah. And I know you didn't watch the show much, like, you know the way that I did and most other people did, but it's funny that Danny tanner character was like one of my first exposure to a single dad because on the show, the mom is dead. So Danny tanner has Joey and Uncle jesse move in with him to help raise the three daughters right now. I've actually seen quite a few episodes of that, like, that's a show actually. Really? Yeah, like I didn't like, I don't know if I religiously watched it, it wasn't for very long and I don't I don't think I've seen all of it and you know what I mean? It wasn't like I wasn't like caught up on it, but there was a point in time where I used to watch it like here and there. Like I remember I know I've seen multiple episodes, like, I'm guessing like 10, 20 episodes at least. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, I actually went back and watched it a little bit of it during quarantine and those episodes that would kind of hit me the hardest is like when dad when bob Saget playing Danny Tanner would have to like talk to the girls about like a situation involving the mom or like the way they were feeling about the mom because there would be like some cases like when the mom would come up and things along those lines, they would be confused about it and he would basically have to like give them to talk about the whole situation and it's got to be rough man. Like no she died she died in a car accident like like for instance there's this one episode where like Michelle like starts to ask like why don't I have a mother like my other friends do and the Michelle character was like one years old when the mom dies so she doesn't really remember her and then it's kind of a funny episode where like she kind of tries to set up Danny with with her teacher and then like she starts to realize that it's not working and she feels all sad and he has to kind of talk to her about, I think I saw I think I saw something about the Danny with a date with a teacher or something. Yeah and Danny basically like talk to Dante. I don't I know you don't remember her but you did have a mom and she loves you very much and unfortunately she died when you were really young etcetera. I'll be honest man. A lot of scenes when they bring up the mom and they really got me choked up. No, for sure. A good friend of mine, like a really good friend of mine. Um, I think you like seeing her on my instagram and stuff, but she lost her mom in a car accident when she was, she wasn't one year old. Like I think she was like, I don't like the oldest 14 like I want to say. And you were like maybe 12 or 14 or something. Something in that range, you know what I mean? And like definitely took a toll and you know, she's, she's good now. Like for the most part everyone's got their issues, but like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, there was definitely, uh, like not an easy thing to go through, like rocked the whole family, you know the whole dad, her sister, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's horrible. Like whether you lose any parent, whether it's your mother or whether it's your father, it's definitely like something you probably never get over. Yeah, she, she lost her mom when she was like 14 I think, you know, I lost his dad when he was like 14. Yeah, it sucks man for like just out of nowhere. Like not even cars and he just, we were walking on the beach and he just dropped boom. Like he was with his wife, like with my aunt, like my dad's sister just dropped like, no, like no one expected anything. Like at least that's what I understood. Like, You know, sometimes you have relatives that are sick that, you know, like, you know, it's, it's a matter of time or they're, you know, it's 5050 or like, you know, and I don't think anyone really expected. It was just like, boom. Yeah bro. That was like, yeah. And like I said before, like, um, full house is like my first exposure to like a single dad of all things and like a dead mom. Yeah. That show was like my first real exposure to like the single dad concept. Yeah, I think that was like unique to that show. Yeah. Because instead of like a mom and a dad is a dad and like the brother in law and the best friend. Yeah. There is one funny story about the guy who plays Joey dave Coulier. The song no scrubs is actually made about him. Yeah. Wait, hold on. The uncle jesse is um, like the dead mom's brother. Yes. Uncle jesse is a dead mom's brother. There was actually a thanksgiving episode, Speaking of that where like, it's like the first thanksgiving without the mom and like jesse is trying to play it off, like saying, yeah, it's thanksgiving, let's go eat, let's go eat and Danny's like, yo, I know this is hard for you to man if you if you want to talk about it, you know, I'm here for you and he's like, no, I wanna go eat, I want to go and he's like, jesse come on bro, you you can talk to me and then he just starts breaking down saying like how is it going to stop hurting? I spend every thanksgiving with her and now she's not gonna be here for this one, like, I don't know how to deal with this, I don't know how to how to handle this etcetera. And as the show goes on, they become closer because of that also. Yeah, because they were never really, I guess in the show storyline wise they were never really super close before that, but then after that and then when he moves in to help raise the girls, they become a lot closer. Yeah, it's a good scene actually, I'll send it to you, you know, it's I have good memories of that show, solid. Yeah, so do I I mean, admittedly parts of it didn't age well and parts of it are kind of corny but it's definitely a show I look back on and have good memories of watching back then. Yeah, I don't remember like I haven't seen, I wouldn't I wouldn't know how it holds up, like I haven't seen anything like recently, but I actually saw quite a little bit, I thought, but I will admit one of the corniest tv theme songs ever made, I don't remember the ******* I did, I did drive by the house though, I think when we were with Clark when we were filming out there for like music videos and I think we drove by the house yo but one thing about the Danny tanner character though with him being a single single guy and all that, so he pulled a lot of fine girls on that show, like a lot of the girls, they had him digging that show, yo he got it in there was like even one episode when he was bachelor of the month and they were showing him just randomly dating different girls at the same time, she was classic and they were playing that song sharp dressed man in the video package ladies go crazy bout a sharp dressed man, silk suits both side. This dude is looking extra fly, that's how the song goes. Yeah, I figured it's a dope song actually. Yeah that dude got it in the Danny tanner character got it in when it came to the women, no joke, I didn't want to spend too much time on that but I just want to conclude saying rest in peace to bob Saget, condolences to his family, his loved ones etcetera and I hope I have the same impact on people that he had whenever my time does come after I'm gone **** I know it's been 20 years since our freshman year of high school. So I kind of wanted to explore a little bit of that with you and kind of get into your mind of like what you were going through at the time. Is that all right. Yeah. I mean I don't know if I'll remember it as good as you, but you can help fill in the blank since you remember everything. How would you describe yourself like when you first came into high school, like how would you, how would you describe yourself to me? Everything is a little more blurry. So I don't know if it's gonna be like true to the moment of where I really was in that head space because I don't have like uh that's not a specific destination for me. It's all one big blur like you know what I mean? Like my memory of the past is not so vivid. Like I remember things, you know what I mean? Like more like the stories certain like things that happened like kind of like a history book, but I don't really remember, you know, like so much has happened and changed. So I would say definitely like there was a transformation that was still mid process and it was just really accelerating in high school but it wasn't like 9th grade started. That's it. Like it was still quite a ways to go from like, you know freshman year to senior year. Like that transformation was still happening. So like coming in, we weren't really used to like the mentality in in florida and high school was like not something we really were familiar with yet, you know what I mean? Um We grew up like in a very different world, you know what I mean? Like we didn't really know anything like with as far as pop culture for example, or just the culture in general. Yes. You know what I mean? Of like how that's what I wanted to actually wanted to ask you that I wanted to ask you about that. Yeah. Like was that maybe like one of the things hardest for you to kind of get used to when you first came to florida and like started going to school in the States during this period, I guess. We just like, it was, we knew we were outsiders, you know what I mean? Um Like we knew that we didn't really have like in like an identity or we didn't really um like fit in if you will, like, we like we were out of the loop, you know what I mean? Um But we kind of like had each other, you know what I mean? And it was being out of the loop wasn't necessarily anything new, you know I mean? We always kind of just did our own thing, being together by ourselves, like in such early ages and moving from place to place, like sometimes 34 times a year, Sometimes, you know, two or three schools in a year. Sometimes, you know what I mean? Different states and countries and languages and different cities. You know, leaving behind family members and neighbors and you know like friends and cousins and all that type of ship, you know? Um We always kind of did our own thing and we always like we're really big into like, like video, like video games but also like legos and just like coming like drawing and like, like when we would play with legos and when we would draw we wouldn't just like just try to entertain ourselves by doing dumb ship with it. Like we would make up like whole world, you know what I mean? Like we would play leg. It was like watching a movie like if you'd see us play like we weren't playing. We were literally like creating fantasy. We were making up characters with names and abilities and we were choreographing fight scenes. We were building sets. Like we were looking at like costume design. You know, like back story like it was like you know like making a movie or writing a book or you know, putting together a play. Like it was always like, like it was like we we had a lot of fantasy that we had between us and made up and ship like that. So we always had like, you know enough and we knew the same characters and like the same thing. So we would drop from the same source material, you know what I mean? So we always kind of raised each other, you know in a way. But then that transformation started happening when we started like, we still kind of did our own thing and did it our own way and like maintained like our identity, but you know that identity started like, you know, breaking apart from each other and more like embracing, you know what's around us in our environment, fitting in socially and actually having like a stable because it since we moved to florida the second time because I did like second grade in florida and I was not like in second grade in florida. I think I didn't talk to anyone in the whole school like the whole year. Like, I just didn't talk to anybody at all. Like zero, something like that. Like, like, literally not eggs graduating. I literally didn't talk to any single person in the whole school year. You know I mean? It was the first time I lived in florida. You know what I mean? But you know, now, you know, we were starting to embrace like, you know, back when we were going to the high school stage. You know, we were like really? It was the first time, like moving to florida the second time, I think we moved in like seventh grade and then we did 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th 12th grade, all in the same area. Multiple different schools and houses and cities. But Um still in the same kind of. Yeah, like our school like we want, we didn't live in the same area but we still went to the same school. So it was like, like like there was kids I saw in 12th grade that I saw in seventh grade and that I never had that in my life. You know what you guys went to four different schools like in that that period. Yeah. Tequesta Falcon Cove. Um Western right for us and Western. Yeah, we lived in the ridges. We lived in Western Hills. We lived in Bay Harbor in like a couple different spots. Um We lived in that hotel. We lived in that ******* um that community that said, what was it um Towards the high school san Michele san Michele Michele. Yeah, it was like, you know, we, we moved quite a quite a bit as well. And also I wanted to get into that too. Did the moving a lot thing kind of um make it hard for you to to adjust specifically during that time. Well, it just, that was the first time we actually stayed in one place. But up until then we just never bothered, you know, getting into the loop that still does have an effect on you. Like even though you guys were like, just not at that point starting to settle. That still have an effect on you guys, would it not? No, obviously I'm getting into that, what I'm saying is like that's when the effect first started fading, like that's not what created the effect, that's when the effects first started fading if anything, like we never bothered to like get the lay of the land because we'd always be leaving again. So we just like I said, we always did our own thing, you know what I mean? Like um and that's like, you know, when we eventually, over the course of time started kind of like growing more like individuals and also like, you know, it was, you know how you stopped watching wrestling for a while? Yeah. So like we stopped playing video games for a while, you know I mean? We got into like fashion and like, you know, clothes and you know, that's when we started picking up hip hop, like listening to rap and also writing rap and you know, we started adopting different like then we at one point we were like rap gurus. So for people who had no idea like what rap is or you know who like Eminem is or anything like that, like all of a sudden now we're like ******* rap gurus, you know what I mean? And rappers, you know? Yeah, you guys definitely had a huge transformation from when I first met you in ninth grade to like it's a senior year. Yeah, it was definitely a different person to say the least. So think of like the same amount of progress but headed in the other direction. Like negative progress. Like take away that same amount of progress from ninth to 12th grade. If you go back to seventh grade like do a minus that progress and then see that from the beginning of florida and seventh grade all the way to and you'll see that you'll be like holy ship. That's even, it's even more drastic. Remember you guys in seventh grade requested yearbook picture? That ship was definitely good for many laughs. Yeah bro. Like like by by ninth grade we were like we still had a ways to go but we were like there was like a light at the end of the road. Like it was like even not for stardom but like just for like fitting in at the bottom like seventh grade, we were still like complete outsiders. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I know that like you and your brother growing up together like being a twin is a much different dynamic than like you know, having a older sibling or younger sibling etcetera. So I would I would ask around this time like in ninth grade, like like towards the earlier part of high school, did you? Is it like the first period where you first started to notice like more of a rift between you guys and like where you guys were like starting to notice more of your differences and that started to maybe make you guys more hostile towards each other. Listen like we always had fights at home as well. Yeah. Like we grew up with each other. Like sometimes my parents weren't even home a lot because they were like running their businesses and things like that and you know what I mean? Like we definitely grew up um you know with each other and like it's not just being closer because you're twins. It's also not having any of your cousins or neighbors or you know, uncles or aunts or grandparents. You know, I mean like most of my family was away from me most of the time. So it sounds like I could just, you know, okay, well I don't have my, you know, my brother's older but my cousins my age like you know I mean? Also like you know my neighbor, we moved, you know, this guy from school, uh different country, you know what I mean? So we definitely like uh like I said like fill the void I guess for each other in a lot of ways. Like you know what I mean? But obviously when you're with someone 24 7, like you know, you fight over ship especially kids especially without adult supervision especially when we're like almost like really dependent on each other in a lot of ways, you know what I mean? We should like, you know, we have the same hobby, the same interest. We would, you know, spend a lot of, most of our free time together doing it. Sometimes he would play his game, I would play my game or whatever you know I mean? But like for the most part we'd like hang out together, you know what I mean? So you know we used to fight a lot but it was always like, you know, we'd fight and then we go right back to normal. So fighting was never the issue. It was slow recovery. That was the issue. We never let it linger for so long. You know, it was always like alright whatever, whatever we thought were cool again. You know what I mean? As long as you can bounce right back a fight is not a big deal. I think like I don't want to say 9th grade but I think maybe like 12th grader senior year, that was when I started to notice like fights that were there weren't just a fight then it's over or like we just weren't doing good right now, you know what I mean? Like we're not really close. Yeah. I was gonna mention that I was gonna mention like like I didn't notice it as much then. But then by 12th grade like when I know you and john were having your problems. That's when I started to notice that you and Ben were also not cool. We're like we were certain nights were like you guys would be hanging out with separate people and that was like a regular thing. Yeah. Yeah, no, we were definitely half the times we would hang out together was not necessarily because like we were hanging out because we were hanging out with the same people, you know what I mean? Yeah. For as much fun as that period was there was a lot of ugly ship and that drama between you guys was definitely one of those things and all the drugs. Listen, it obviously isn't fun when it's like when it's filled with like, you know, tension and negative, you know, vibes and and things like that. But at some point like I guess it was inevitable that we would, you know, so also like grow apart in some ways, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's unfortunate. I mean, I've never really had a bad falling out with any of my siblings like that badly so I can't, you know, relate in that regard. I don't know if that was the worst that we've had, you know, as our time is twins. I think we've surpassed it already in recent years. Um But yeah, it's not fun. Obviously at one point in high school, like if there ever was a point where was the point where like you guys like really started to feel like you were coming out of your shell and you guys like started to become like basically what you guys would be known for for better or worse as high school went on So blurry. Um but I would I feel like 10th grade is when we like we were like early you know like if you take a wrapper for example you have like underground rappers before they're like you know how back then like pitbull wasn't big yet but he was like starting to get big like like he like people knew and all that you know, even before that when john used to listen to him before even hadn't single like and you know it was like like a local act like you know what I mean? Like he still didn't really make it big yet but like he like he didn't mixtape ship and people like heard of him in the area who are local, you know what I mean? Like the first time you ever heard him rap anyways. So like we were already like like we already saw like what we were I guess going for and who we were gonna be and all that and just like it was at the early stages, you know what I mean? As opposed to like You know 11th grade and 12th grade where it was already more bloomed in advanced and you know more involved I guess. Yeah. Because I remember that one year I was gone by the time I came back at the beginning of the 11th grade, I'm like damn these ************'s are the most loved and most hated kids in the school, like I can be popular, but um, it's not not going to be the same, not better now popular. Yeah, it's just, it's just a certain level. I mean, there's, there's Colby and then there's Michael Jordan's just, you can be good, but there's like a certain level where you just know it's not gonna happen. Yeah, I have to say that. Out of four students, like, I know for sure. Of course, I'm sure you're fine with it. But if anything, you probably thought it was dope. Like we're your friends, but out of 4000 students, like to be that known was definitely an accomplishment or feet in many ways, you know what I mean? Yeah. So you would say more like 10th graders, like when that kind of started to come out more, I think 10th grade is when it was born, but it's still in its infant stages. Once again, my memory is really fuzzy. So you probably wouldn't know even better than me. Yeah, I would say 10th grade because that was the year when you guys first started rapping and um, I guess you guys were more well known at that point and then by the end of the year, you guys both had girlfriends. So that was another thing that kinda boosted you guys up. I wasn't there for it, but it sounds about right from those experiences. Wait, we had, I think the whole girlfriend thing was like after a 10th grade, right? Yeah, like the the end, early summer I think you and Danny officially became a couple, like the monday after, after the year ended. Oh, oh okay. So like immediately after. But I think like as far as like, let's say let's say like losing my virginity or something like that. I would say that was probably like in the beginning of the 11th grade, 11th grade in the beginning. So I guess like somewhere in between like 10th and 11th grade even, you know like maybe even that summer, like, you know what I mean? Like I guess that's when it really like evolved past like, like the cocoon stage was over and you know the butterfly emerged a few. Yes. And back to what I was mentioning about like you guys having your first girlfriend like with like you probably having like the option of like maybe have of having a certain amount of girls you maybe wanted, what was it about the one that you picked that made her stand out most. Um I feel like maybe I didn't know like the extent of my options yet, you know what I mean necessarily? And she was just the one that like made the connection. It wasn't like I want, you know like I don't want her, I don't want her, I want her. It was like that was the first time I guess like someone really tried to go in and I let them in, you know what I mean? Like that close you know what I mean? Um So it just kind of happened and I wasn't very like you know now if I'm faced with like going into a relationship I'm like hold on wait like I'm very like chances are slim, I'm gonna be like no but this no but this back then I was like I've never done it before, like I want to try already. You know what I mean? Like I didn't I never thought of like I was so excited with the thought of like trying it already that I didn't really stop to think about. Wait what if I don't like it? How do I end it? How do I stop it? And then back then I was like more like trying to please people and didn't really know how to say no with certain things and you know like uncomfortable situations maybe stop me. And then once I started seeing that the relationship wasn't you know what I thought I kind of didn't know how to get off the ride or stop it or just you know what I mean? For a while and then when I did it wasn't that easy, she didn't make it easy. I'll say that one. I wanted to explore that next like being your first relationship, what did you like about it at first? And what did you not like about it? I think I just liked the experience like like I said of like letting someone in and and having that bond with someone and having like being in a relationship and you know, kind of having that like, you know lover and front and someone to share things with and you know just that experience like it was, you know, also like physically and getting intimate and all these things um and not just what you get but also what you're able to give and people letting you in and that feeling that bond, like it was a new experience for me and you know obviously like I saw it as growth and I enjoyed it. It was great. But I feel like with time I started seeing a lot of laws or just like things that just wearing my cup of tea and the other person and not liking what it was becoming and you know what I mean? Like at one point it just like I guess maybe the it just became unhealthy or like the bad started outweighing the good in in a lot of ways I guess, you know what I mean? Yeah. I remember discussions about that back then. I think I remember that kind of time frame. I would say like maybe after the three month mark, I started to notice that you weren't as happy. Yeah, it was, it just became a lot of drama and a lot of work and a lot of like, you know just like chaos, you know what I mean? And I was seeing like sides of her that I didn't really appreciate or you know, it's getting harder to always be excited about it or respect her as much and you know what I mean? Like uh just started becoming like a headache. So how did you, how did it feel when you finally got rid of that headache definitely like a relief, you know what I mean? I know you would end up getting back with her a little while later at for a brief period of time, but just from breaking up with her, like after doing it that way, did you feel like it was something like you could do going forward that like you realize like it's best to get out of those toxic situations before they get worse do you think? Like going through that like made you take that mentality with you in your later relationships, it was definitely the first step. I still had a ways to go, but you know, that was like the first step, but you know, like there was things I still work until now, but I'm definitely, you know, I'm I'm way further along now than I was back then, like, you know, we're trying to like please people and not knowing how to say no or you know what I mean? Like, but even even till this day sometimes I slip up and I get caught up in things and then I get a wake up call and I'm like oh should I got to stop this right now. Like you know I mean? Recently I had this like chick was kind of like stalking me at some point and I just like one day I like you know I never I never let it bother me too much, you know what I mean? But at one point I just kind of realized like oh sh it like you know like I'm being too cool about this like this ship is out of line like you know like um and I had to cut her off. You know what I mean? Like it's a relief but it's like you know like she just didn't get the hand. I'm like alright I gotta cut the switch off. Like she just crossed the line. Like it wasn't cool. Yeah. I don't I can't recall any other girl that you dated that you made a rap song dissing So I'm sure that was probably one that stands out most rap song. I had battles with this chick multiple times. Like we battled each other. Like I have this is on this is on this, that's what I mean. I can't recall any of your other girlfriend that you actually made songs because there's a song there's girl take it easy which is like a funny hit single pop song, you know that's about her? But then there's like after that there was like this is like battles back and forth multiple years. Yeah I remember them. I remember them very well and one of the battles I remember most is the battle you and your brother would have with the freaking office and also with the freak students. She was wild man. You guys were public enemy number one and two. I also wanted to ask you like what was it like going through that experience? Like you guys ever experienced anything like that before? Up to that point and what was the life and the day of you guys? Like during that specific period when the heat was on Big time, a day in the life? Like I said my memory's fuzzier bro. But generally speaking, I remember like little moments, not necessarily in chronological order. Remember like a general vibe, you know? And like I remember the, the vibe and I remember my vibe. So the vibe was like ship is real on the streets of Western, like any day can be your last like having to look over your shoulder, getting jumped, you know, people threatening you like trying to jump you like multiple crews and multiple occasions, you know what I mean? Like not really having, you know, kind of like having everyone's back but no one really has yours in a way, you know what I mean? Just like against all odds. Like danger could be around the corner, you know what I mean? And just unpredictable people that are prone to do dumb **** but then like my vibe was kind of like I don't give a funk about anything, like I'm gonna like just provoke it and like you know what I mean? Like no one's gonna you know like come and pick up my vibe like you know what I mean? Like kind of like risky behavior I guess. Like flirting with that. Yeah. I think the one example I could think of was the time when you and Ben were at the party where the where the chat fight first happened and it was like 30 of them and only three of you guys and they said like yo everything will be fine if you guys just leave and you guys just said we're gonna stay. So like that's kind of a situation I guess. Where like maybe it would have been smart to leave but you you're like I'm not gonna leave but forced me out of here. That's only part of the story though. You weren't there. No, I wasn't there. No, that's why from this illustration you guys are. So let me let me explain, let me explain what it was for me to keep a g not just like the dangerous side but also like the the principal side and the human side and the you know the deeper side like so when we got to that place we had no idea that we were running into trouble at all. Like the last, if someone would have told me that, that's how the night would have ended, I would have thought they were crazy like there was no signs to suggest that we'd even see any of those. Like, we didn't know we weren't looking for like, you know, we didn't know they were gonna be there. We had like we came completely innocent like not trying to start any type of ship it back then, we didn't even think that this would even escalated to that ever. We thought it was just ship talking like everything else was, you know like I said, we have been tried like I had been jumped before with Zack and them and almost jumped as well with other people. But you know what I mean, Like I've been in tense situations before but not like that, you know what I mean? And I never thought there would with like I just started hearing rumors that they have beef with us and I didn't even know how true they were. I never had an interaction with any of these people like, like nothing had happened yet. There was no precursor, just rumors and ship like that and dirty looks anyways when we get to the place, it was like me, Ben john and I think his girlfriend or some sh it I don't know whatever and we rode out together, we drove together. I remember we were like in the car Freestyling. And and then when we get out it's not people that have beef with us, it's like other people asking yo yo I heard you guys make a beef and I'm like no, leave me alone, like, you know, I don't know what you're talking about, leave me alone, leave me alone, leave me alone. Then people started saying, yo they're here, yo they're here like where you guys gonna fight? And I'm like no, I don't know, like leave me alone. And then people started saying **** about like, oh you guys should get the funk outta here or something like that. And I was like no we're good, whatever, leave us alone, leave us alone. And then at one point we migrate to a different area and now this it's packed, it's like a sea of people like you can't see who's on the other side of the parking lot. And then at one point I I start hearing like yo where's your where's Brennan l now going back to freshman year when I met you back then like I met that that's when I met Miles and he was like the cool kid and I was like still like kind of like the outsider and we had the same class, I think even maybe two classes or something. And like you know we played, we went tight but he would compliment me because I had like food not we wouldn't hang out ever outside of class, but in class, like we would play on the same basketball team in pe class, We had classes together and he was kind of class clown. And I kind of like backed him up. I was like, like, you know what I mean? Like we were like kind of cool and then like, we never had any negative interactions. Like he kind of, he was like for a cooler kid than me, he was he could have bullied me, but he'd adopted, you know I mean? He was like, hey, what's up anyways? Fast forward? Like now I haven't interacted with him at all. And like, now I'm hearing that he's got beef with me and he's looking for me. He wants to fight me. I'm like, what the makes no sense like. And once again, it's not like I bumped into him in the hallway and we had like, uh you know, we got in each other's face and now he's talking like, no interaction zero. Since then it's just weird to me. So when I started, I think one day you meet you and while we're standing at the corner and like you saw him passed by and I think you made a joke to him and he got kind of got mad at it, give you like a snarky comment back and you kind of brushed it off, like it was a joke, taking it serious. But little did I know this after there was rumors that he was just weeks before the fight. This is weeks before the in the first fight happened? It's like wait what happened? I don't remember this. What happened? I told you you me and juan were like standing at the corner like talk after class and then miles walked by and then you make kind of a joke to him or something. And then he kind of got seemed like he was piste off about it and he told you to stop talking. Sh it really what kind of joke at his expense. I don't know by heart. But I know you like you said something funny and he didn't take it that way. And then when he responded to you the way he did you kind of just brushed it off and you didn't really take it seriously. But little did we know he responded like in like let's go ***** kind of way. He told you like yo stop talking like told you guys better watch your back something along those lines. Oh ****, I don't remember that. Okay, interesting. Yeah. To me. I just didn't realize like I didn't know why the funk we would have beef. It didn't make sense to me. I had no I never talked about him. I didn't have any issues with him. I thought he was a cool kid like I didn't know why we would be fighting. So Anyways it's like a sea of people were on one side and then I hear from the other side you know was gonna know yo where's banana like and then I just go we're right the funk here or something like that and like everyone kind of parted and it was like you could see across the like the parking lot to the other side and and then um Miles was there and he was like I guess they were everyone like we were staring at them, they were staring at us and just like everyone was like a sea of people and that's just a path from us. Like everyone in the sidelines kind of like staring and it just got quiet and no one did it. So I just started walking to him like you know and everyone was there and you know everyone's like trying to egg on the fight like oh ******* scrap with it and I'm like you know I'm like yo miles can I talk to you bro like something to that effect and you know what I mean? Like everyone's like his boys like no no no funk that talk sh it just fight and I'm like like yeah like let's take a walk and I like at one point put my arm around him and started moving him with me and like just literally taking him for a walk and like everyone's gonna like trying to like start ship and I'm just like yo what the **** like what is this like why the **** like is there something, I don't know like I'm cool with you, you like like have I done something wrong to you? Like what the funk is going on? Like where is this coming from? You know what I mean? And then like I don't remember how it dissipated but it just kind of ended and we went back to doing our thing and then only later when the rock pulled up or whatever, then chad started throwing a fit and just started fighting Ben. But you know I mean it seemed like the situation was diffused, you know what I mean? You know I mean? It was defused by not by me trying to start some sh it by me being the bigger person and just going up to him and like literally with all his crew by myself just putting my arm around him and grabbing him with me for a walk and telling him that everything is good, you know what I mean? Yeah I get it. But yeah it was real during that time so I was like was there ever a point where you're like damn I really hate this ship. Damn, I can't wait for this to be over them. I can't wait to graduate and get the funk away from these people. Did you ever like go through those kind of moments? It's hard to say looking back, I'm sure that I had like stress and you know worry and and and things like that. Like I remember even not with them even with a zack loud ship which was in comparison probably not as big of a deal, but like I ended up bringing a knife to school that day because people told me don't come to school, you're gonna get jumped, you know what I mean? If that was back then this was definitely worse, you know what I mean? Yeah, I got really ugly during that period. Like looking back at it now, it was definitely uh can't say that I can relate to what you guys were going through, but I just said to myself like damn, I wouldn't really want to be these guys right now with what they're dealing with because people will think that being popular is like is like is this amazing thing? And it's the best thing ever and like everyone dies to have it. But at the end of the day it's it's not all that, it's cracked up to be, you're you're pretty much under a microscope every time you're at school and every time like you were in the public eye in a sense and the littlest thing you do, the littlest thing you say, or if you try to defend the wrong person, it can freaking land you in hot water with the wrong people. Yeah, I don't know, it's it's it is a little crazy, I would say that, I don't think that all the popular kids at school had like drama like we did. You know what I mean For us? It was extreme. You know I mean? With the faculty and but every anyone who's popular on any level will have to deal with that kind of stress on in some form. Even if it was worse. I'm not saying they don't I'm not saying they don't I'm just saying, I think that's still a very extreme example. And there was a lot of kids that they were popular school that weren't put in those situations. You know what I mean? But no, for sure. More money, more problems. You know what I mean? For sure fame is a blessing and a curse. It's not just all peaches and cream. What what do you guys think? You got it worse from the other students in the office. As far as the heat, I guess with the other students, it was like less provoked unless warranted. We didn't do ship to those people. You know what I mean? Like, you know I mean? And then like with the faculty it's like, well they gave us a hard time. But there's so much more ship we got away with. You know what I mean? Then we got caught for, you know what I mean? Like? And it's like, you know, most of the ship it's like, like you said, like who are we hurting? It's not regulation, we're not allowed to do it granted. You know, if I had employees who were just, you know, certain things that like I wouldn't be a nazi about the ******* rules in the first place. You know what I mean? Like I don't tell my waiters to like shave their face or whatever. It's their ******* face. I don't own them. You know what I mean? Like you do whatever you want with your face bro. But like, you know obviously if people act out of line, I'm gonna also enforce like, you know, order, you know? So like it's more understood, you know what I mean? With the faculty and more natural, you know what I mean? But coming from your peers, you know what I mean? For one that don't have authority over you and it's not like you're breaking the rules, you know what I mean? Like it's like less warranted, it's less expected. Less understandable. Also, you know, especially when they don't play by the rules as well. So you know, these are the school, they give you an attention. They're not gonna jump you and they're not gonna like try to like tell your car into pieces or you know, like have like ******* cut you off in the middle of the road. You know what I mean? Like it's a different type of uh drama. Yeah. But even though I know you guys like had your rowdy moments and all that jazz. Did you guys ever feel like you were unfairly targeted by the office like where they like really like out to get you? Yeah listen at the end of the day it was clear that they didn't like the way we talked or the way we dressed or you know the way we carried ourselves or you know the fact that we would kind of like challenge authority and kind of think for ourselves and you know what I mean? Like there was a lot of things about, you know the attention that we got in the scene that we made like one time we got in trouble because all right, there was chris silva knows brother will I think he's dead or something. Okay. So his brother will um I think got into like an altercation maybe with Ben in the cafeteria. And then I stepped in and you know what I mean? Like to get Ben's back and then he was like saying let's fight whatever blah blah blah like. And I'm like, I didn't think he was serious. Like there was no real reason to fight. Like it's not like prolonged when we were talking sh it I was like, he was like, oh what do you ***** let's go fight. I was like, I just said my address. So when we lived in western hills I just said like 3227 Jordan away or something like that, like, you know what I mean? Like and we walked away and anyways I started hearing all the ship that he was gonna like wait for us by our bus to fight us. And I heard of this ship like from other people and like as we're going and I'm like all right, well I guess we're gonna find out because we're going to our bus or whatever. And then more people start joining. You always waiting for you in the parking lot. More people like they don't necessarily have her back if she goes down. But we were just like we had like a million people following us bro because they all wanted to see the ******* fight. It's a fight that we're supposed to be ambushed at like we're the victim. Like instead of like that's when we need protection from our faculty. It was just like we got in trouble for disturbing the peace like for causing a scene. I'm like I'm going to my bus. That's how I get home. Like I didn't tell these people to follow me. I didn't tell that kid to like spread rumors that he's waiting to jump me in the parking lot. Like I'm the ******* victim like and we got in trouble for that ship bro. Like so yeah, not all of it was ******* fair. You know what I mean? Yeah because I remember one time where um you got suspended and then the next day john got into a fight and you got suspended and they just suspended Ben right afterwards. I'm like Ben didn't even do anything. What the fund is that all about **** like that? I guess maybe they figured that Ben was next, but still the dude didn't even do anything yet. You can't just punish him for something that didn't go for maybe. Yeah, for theory, just like you can't punish someone for having people follow him. Like what the funk? Like I didn't, I didn't force him to follow me. Then punish everyone. The kid that was supposed to jump us. I don't even think he got in trouble. Come on and follow me if you're down with the FP. Oh ****. Yeah it was. But the one that will stand out to me was the beginning of senior year, that first day when we were wearing our matching shirts and then we're just like walking to class, literally not bothering anybody minding our own business, you with you, me and juan again and freaking some administrators stop us until and we have to follow them to the office and then bends there and john's there. They think we're gang related because john's shirt says not La Familia on it. And I think it's and they say like that's a gang and sunrise and they make us take their shirts off and the hats off and that's like the point where I said like, okay, now I get why you guys said you can't stay out of trouble even when you're not doing anything. Yeah. That? God was the point where. I was like, yo this is ********. We're literally not bothering anybody. We're not starting trouble. We're not starting a fight, we're not harassing anyone. And you guys are just with us. Yeah. There was a couple examples I think also the time that we got kicked out and you guys did the whole petition thing that time. I think also it wasn't some ********. Like Ben had ******* teacher and I think I just like left, I left something in his bag or with him. I don't remember. It was my phone. I remember he had he had my cd player or something and I just went to grab it from him. I'm like, you know what I mean? Like I need my cd player or something like that. And I just like took it and left and then like the teacher started like trying to like ditch me out. I don't remember what the funk happened, I remember the details and then like and and you know what I mean? Like we were like that was when we were like kind of trying to stay out of trouble because we got like our last morning or whatever and we're like all right, we're gonna be good now or whatever. And he just like started busting our balls for no reason what you're trying to stay out of trouble. That's at least on paper like we got this warning of like okay this is your last, you know what I mean? This is your last straw, like you're at least worried about it, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's crazy. But, but but that one more thing just before we get out, I wanted to mention one more thing like during that period we did actually try to start a petition for you guys to stay in the school and not get kicked out. It worked. It did work. But like what was your reaction to that? That like, like a bunch of people, a bunch of your friends would go out of their way to save you guys from getting kicked out. Was that I guess maybe the point where you would say like you have some real friends in this place after after all the years of moving around and like not staying in the same place like in this place that we actually have your friends who actually like look for real would you say you kind of got that reaction from it. It was very heartwarming. I think that the main people involved were like you tara Danny and want to, but I think you guys weren't the hardest. I don't know, maybe I missed like the whole john okay, maybe not, I don't know, whatever john as well. Um So yeah, like, you know, I mean as far as you, like, you know, 20 years later, fast forward, you know, I mean it definitely um you know, it was like a good feeling and it definitely like, you know show that you guys really care, didn't want us there and you know that you guys went out of your way to do that and at first it was almost like funny or like you know just cool and then it actually became like serious and like it actually ended up working so that was even cooler but it always kind of felt like something that it just felt like out of a movie like like like unreal, you know what I mean? Like like no one would ever believe this ship you know what I mean? Like it was like too crazy you know to be true and yeah I guess like what I told what I said before you guys were the most loved and most hated kids at school at the same time. And if you guys to have some people start a petition if you guys do not get kicked out, that love was mad strong, you're the one who went around getting the signatures. I just heard about it like you tell me what was the vibe you want you know from door to door if you will you know what I mean? I had a few people who like brushed it off and said just let them get expelled et cetera, they don't want to get involved. But there were people who were like down for and people who like definitely thought it was ******** what was happening to you guys. Yeah I think I got like 50 signatures if I remember correctly. Damn. Look at you. Yeah, we weren't looking around that whole day. All of us wanted just you just you got 50 or everyone. I think myself might have been 50. Just me alone. And then how do you remember how many in total? No no no no I never got the final mentality but I just remember I got a decent amount but if you got 50 you're on your own then it's at least 100 or two. I don't know bro. I don't know the exact number. All I know is that I know Danny went hard for sure. All I know is that at work but you're you're asked to freaking start a fight with Zach lodge a few weeks later after we went through all that damn trouble and you had to pull that ********. It wasn't a fight. It was a smash. It doesn't matter matter. It doesn't matter. She shouldn't happen in the first place. You're probably right. But um I'm probably right now kurt, kurt is right in this case, l is always right but in this case kurt is right. No ******* argument for one. It was the most priceless smack. I don't want to hear it, I don't want to hear it, I don't want to hear it. And I think it was also like at the end of the year say kurt was right and that's the and be done with it. I'm not saying you were and I'm just saying that I think also part of the thinking behind it was like everyone, I think that's how it started, what they're gonna do. Everyone is saying what they're gonna do because it's the end of the school year and if they get suspended like 10 days doesn't mean ship like the school year is over. It's like a technicality. So everyone was like saying what they were going to do to get away like that they could get away with. And I think he was on Tara's bus and he was like I'm gonna ******* like smack l or I'm gonna smack the ship out of jail or something like that. So I'm like that ***** like that kid would would, you know like nah. And I was like alright I'm not gonna fight him, I'm just gonna smack the out of him like he said he was gonna do to me and I know that's where it'll land. In truth. Behold that you know that's where it ended, I smacked the shot of him and he didn't do sh it doesn't matter bro, it shouldn't have been done in the first place, your assets already on thin ice. And I knew that he had like, I think it was like weird or paraphernalia in his backpack because it was a friend told me. And then he um he snitched on me, that's why I got in trouble because I didn't get caught john got caught because he started making a scene. I sat back down and started eating and they literally didn't take me to the office. And then he snitched on me and they called me to the office or I don't know if the cameras or something and I couldn't, I knew he had it in his backpack and I didn't say I could have gotten like snitched on him back. But no that's all well and good bro. But like I said that she just wasn't necessary. Of course it wasn't necessary, breathing is necessary. That's not breathing right? So I'll take it anyway. We're gonna do the second part of this episode next week. I gotta I was gonna mention before we get out of here the freaking um probably the biggest story on facebook right now besides the bob Saget thing is the freaking beyond chicken nuggets that KFC just dropped. Did you know I didn't try them? I don't need to K. F. C. I mean I might try them at some point but it is kind of technically still cooked in the same oil is like the other chicken and other ******** they make. So it's kind of it's vegan but not really great area vegan. I do eat at non vegan restaurants now until you don't really know what is going on with that. Like I only eat vegan dishes. But yeah it's like that. I mean I don't eat it all, all vegan places all the time. **** even publix over half the stuff they have, there is not vegan and all commercial brands and whatnot. But you just got to do the best you can. That's what being vegan is all about, just doing the best. You can just don't be a judgy ******* vegan because that ship is wack sauce. I'm good with what I do. Yeah judgy ******* vegan stay away, you can always do more, but I'm definitely good with what I do. Yeah, me too bro, real talk. But in any event for L rock mining, this is Kirk Adet for another edition of sparky sparky spark it up. We will see the same time, same place next weekend will be marked with the king day next week, so we'll be getting into some black history stuff as well. So until next time. Take care